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Allen West “Republicans should move to hold Lois Lerner in contempt of Congress”

By Lisa Barron

House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa should not have adjourned Wednesday’s hearing after former IRS official Lois Lerner repeatedly refused to answer questions, says Republican former U.S. Rep. Allen West.

“Well, that is going to play bad as far as the optics. What I would have done is keep the pressure on Lois Lerner, because now no one is going to be talking about Lois Lerner. As a matter of fact, if Lois Lerner does not want to answer the questions of the American people, then she should not be getting that six-figure, taxpayer-funded pension that she is receiving.

“Now everyone is going to be talking about Darrell Issa and how he reacted,” West told Newsmax TV’s J.D. Hayworth on “America’s Forum” Tuesday.

As for what should happen next to put the spotlight back on Lerner, West said  Republicans should move to hold her in contempt of Congress.

“That’s the only way you get it back on her. And really, she is thumbing her nose. When you think about what President Obama recently said in his interview with Bill O’Reilly, that there’s not a smidgen of corruption in the IRS. Well, then, why is Lois Lerner pleading the Fifth? And so, somehow you got to retake that high ground and you got to do it quickly,” he said.

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  • Akbigman

    HA they can not hold her in Contempt that would require the Balls to do so, and it seems she is oddly the only one in the room that has any!

    • Wcharnock

      Watch….Watch…shes going to jail

      • Jonathan R. Hoffmeier

        I’ll believe that when I see it.

      • Gretchen la Blanc

        for what? using her constitutionally guaranteed rights under the 5th amendment? that is NOT a jailable offince

        • SYG

          Gretchen la Blanc . . .Where you been girl? Just think of what the 5th Amendment is for. It is there for guilty people to use so as NOT to say anything that will add to the charges that they are already guilty of. They don’t want to slip up and say something that will incriminate themselves deeper. Well, if she is totally innocent, what could she possible say that will incriminate her? If she actually is innocent, then all she has to do is tell the Committee the truth, and they let her walk. Simple as that. I’m 73 and I’ve watch a hellava lot of Congressional Hearing in my life and many on a black and white TV. And not one time did an innocent person plead the 5th Amendment. All the ones who pleaded the 5th, were eventually found guilty anyway of other charges not related.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            Because the founding fathers wanted innocent until proven guilty and didn’t want people condemned by coerced statements. That was based on their experience with British justice.
            Okay, you’re 7 years older than I. That doesn’t invalidate the constitution.

        • SYG

          Gretchen la Blanc . . .Where you been girl? Just think of what the 5th Amendment is for. It is there for guilty people to use so as NOT to say anything that will add to the charges that they are already guilty of. They don’t want to slip up and say something that will incriminate themselves deeper. Well, if she is totally innocent, what could she possible say that will incriminate her? If she actually is innocent, then all she has to do is tell the Committee the truth, and they let her walk. Simple as that. I’m 73 and I’ve watch a hellava lot of Congressional Hearing in my life and many on a black and white TV. And not one time did an innocent person plead the 5th Amendment. All the ones who pleaded the 5th, were eventually found guilty anyway of other charges not related.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            Because the founding fathers wanted innocent until proven guilty and didn’t want people condemned by coerced statements. That was based on their experience with British justice.
            Okay, you’re 7 years older than I. That doesn’t invalidate the constitution.

          • Stay Loose

            Google the history of the 5th amendment. It is frequently used by accused innocents and it has gone to the Supreme Court and been upheld on a number of occasions. Any defense lawyer will automatically advise a client to plead the 5th, especially for cases that involve major issues and public officials.

  • sweetie

    I cannot believe she has not been held in contempt. How long are we going to do the song and dance ???

    • tootdadoo

      When are the Dumb-As-Dirt people going to STOP voting for idiots like Darrell Issa, who want nothing more than to bleed you and me for every Tax $$$ we have! Hey! “sweetie”! I guess you didn’t get the “memo” about the IRS Independent Investigation that completely exonerated Lois Lurner did you? Darrell Issa isn’t doing himselves any favors by digging his heels any deeper into quicksand, he seem to want to bury the F-ING Party. This latest stunt is nothing more the a Theater Farce Darrell Issa is putting on for the Dumber-Than-Dirt Republi-TURDS that you might want to ask yourself a few questions like, “DUUUUUUUAHHHHHHHHH? IS THIS FOR REAL?” HUH! HUH!

      • gregzotta

        Hey DooDoo, you clearly are an ignorant ObamaManiac and it shows with your stupid posts. The IRS investigating themselves and finding no wrongdoing and you believe that. There is a saying, you cannot fix STUPID, which applies to you. As for tax dollars, your Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama has ran the debt from 10 Trillion to over 17 Trillion and counting.

        • Garry Singletary

          Greg, stop watching Faux News. The deficit is now the lowest it has been since President Obama took office. As for Congress? They are stealing from the American people every day. They are taking a salary and benefits and NOT doing what they were elected to do. The Republicans and Tea people have made such a mockery of our government it is shameful. I will never vote Republican again.

          • gregzotta

            Let’s see, your Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama ran up the debt from 10 trillion to over 17 Trillion and you claim the deficit is now lower since Obama first took office. You ObamaManiacs are CLUELESS. In Obama’s first years his Regime was running trillion dollar deficits, the highest since the country’s founding and ran up more debt than all the previous presidents combined and going higher. With your lack of intelligence it would be better for this country if you never voted again.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            this is patently untrue

          • gregzotta

            You are another ObamaManiac who cannot handle the truth.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            If you ay so, i guess i must believe it is so. ..;)

          • Stay Loose

            Be careful your racism is showing.

          • gregzotta

            Typical lib response, cry racism when you cannot debate the substance.

          • Kit Fritters

            President Obama inherited that “Trillions of dollars” deficit and debt from President Bush. But you forgot all about that didn’t you? He screwed us all, but thanks for blaming it on the black guy.

          • gregzotta

            There are none so blind as those who will not see. GW Bush also ran up the debt from about 6-10 trillion. Obama now has a blank check and the debt is going much higher.

          • SYG

            Garry . .I love your comment: “The deficit is now the lowest it has been since President Obama took office.”
            Please post those number for us. I haven’t read a good fiction in a long time.
            1. What was our national Debt when Obama took office in 2008?
            2. What is our National debt today?

            If you need help getting those number let me know. I already have them, but I want YOU to post them so we can see them directly from you and not me.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            SYG: the fact that you don’t know the difference between the deficit and the debt indicates your lack of knowledge about our financial system. The debt may be up, but the budget deficit (ie borrowing money from China to pay for the so-called war against Iraq, tax cuts for the wealthy not offset by budget cuts and other Bush/Republican moves) is way down. in other words, we are closer to having a balanced budget which could ultimately begin to reduce the debt.

        • Gretchen la Blanc

          actually, they found about equal hold ups for republican, tea party and democratically aligned purposes. the 501c4 law states entirely for non-political purposes. and Eisenhower IRS changed that to ‘substantially non-political in a rule. so the rule has violate the law for over 50 years. Issa is wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on this red herring and the uninformed are buying it hook line and sinker. calling names is easy. researching the law is tougher, but doable.

        • tootdadoo

          Hey greg, GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS! IF YOU HAD A BRAIN IT WOULD BE LONESOME! I guess “Irony” escapes you TOO! HUH? The investigation was not done by the IRS it was done by an Independent Congressional Committee, (ie. REPUBLI-TURDS+Democrats) and they found no evidence of wrongdoing by the IRS, they found that the IRS investigated BOTH “RIGHT” and Left Organizations but the only wrong-doing that was found to be done was by those “Right-Wing” Organizations that tried to HIDE their list of “DONORS” and the “Directions” that the Organization’s $-FUNDS-$ that are supposedly ONLY to be donated to CHARITABLE Organizations! BUT! As we ALL know REPUBLI-TURDS don’t DONATE to CHARITIES they ONLY DONATE to REPUBLI-TURDS! AND THAT’S WHERE THEY GOT THEMSELVES INTO TROUBLE! Republi-Turds Walk and Talk and Drive cars and every single one of them DO IT WITH THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASSES! HOW DO YOU DO IT GREG? Is there ANY Intelligent Thought Process that goes on in the Republican Party? We see that you are able to type and that you do have access to a computer, do you not realize that YOU do have the FREEDOM to “FACT-CHECK” these things! YOU DO KNOW THAT? RIGHT? FOR CHRIST’S SAKE MAN! “DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING! OR ELSE STOP MAKING SUCH AN IDIOT OUT OF YOURSELF, I’M EMBARRASSED FOR YOU!

    • Garry Singletary

      Until the idiots realize that Tea people are the only one that believe all this fake conspiracy crap and people change the channel from Faux News to a station with real news.

  • Adrien Nash

    No one has any constitutional protection against answering the
    questions of Congress unless they involve directly implicating oneself
    in a crime. We are only free to not have to testify against ourselves.
    All other questions must be answered. Why are the Republicrats sooooo
    stupid that they don’t even know the Constitution? I bet that every
    question they asked her was fair game.

    They need
    to hold both her and her incompetent attorney in contempt of the
    American People and Congress for protecting the guilty who they must
    protect or else they will turn around and blow the whistle on Lerner.
    That is not about freedom from self-incrimination. That’s about
    obstruction of justice and misprision of felony.

    • Garry Singletary

      You’re right about not knowing the Constitution. They prove that every day. Like the moron that said God wrote it. Really? If they had the gonads to charge her with contempt it would have been done. Maybe it’s because Issa knows there is no conspiracy involving the IRS and especially Benghazi.He and Lindsey Graham need to be voted out. Their time is up.

      • tootdadoo

        “HERE! HERE!”

    • Gretchen la Blanc

      she pled the 5th. i watched and every question was intended to make her look evil and Issa look intelligent. Instead he looked petty and childish

      • SYG

        So Gretchen . . .Apparently you have some sort of “Question Evaluation Credential” that qualifies you to tell us whether or not the question was valid or not, and what the question’s intent was?
        Wow . .ur good. Do you hire out?

        • Gretchen la Blanc

          if you can’t tell a leading or misleading question from a proper one, let me know the next time you’re testifying in defense of your actions in a court setting, call me and I’ll coach you through it.

  • tootdadoo

    CONTEMPT? There’s no one more in “CONTEMPT” then Darrell Issa! She’s a SMART GIRL! Issa is so STUPID if he thinks he’s going to trip Lois Lerner up by asking her all of these meaningless questions hoping she will incriminate herself, she’s already been Vindicated by the IRS Internal Investigation and these DUMB-AS-DIRT Republi-TURDS just can’t seem to understand that from this point on everything they do and say about the matter just make them look DUMBER-THAN-DIRT! I wouldn’t be surprised if he lets loose with a “BENGHAZI” or two while he’s at it!

    • Garry Singletary

      Oh he will. If not his butt buddy Lindsey Graham will.

    • SYG

      tootdadoo . . . .stay tuned and get back to us when she’s held in contempt and jailed. We want to hear your comments then please.

      • tootdadoo

        “Ain’t gonna happen!” SYGeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Do your OWN homework you might actually learn something!

  • gregzotta

    I hold all members of the Obama Regime in contempt!

    • Gretchen la Blanc

      how sad and closed minded of you

      • gregzotta

        Not closed minded, but truthful.

        • Kit Fritters

          No, just sadly misinformed and misled. I pity you.

    • NEO Stephens

      I hold you in contempt for your stupidity.

      • gregzotta

        ObamaManiacs, like yourself, apparently are OK with the Obama Regime spying on Americans to create enemies lists against Patriotic Americans, such as the Tea Party. It is you and your ilk who are the STUPID ones. And there is a saying, you can’t fix STUPID.

        • NEO Stephens

          And where did you get that “list of enemies”? You should really look into that tea-bag party thing and what they really stand for. Ask my next door neighbor and his antics. Patriotic my ass!

          • gregzotta

            I got it from your Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama. You really need to pay more attention when your leader speaks.

          • NEO Stephens

            You got it twisted, my Messiah is Jesus Christ. I don’t worship humans like you do. You’re probably at the grave site right now of Ronald Reagan waiting for him to rise so you can kiss his ring. Keep kneeling there and waiting.

          • major Bubba

            Oh really, do you think that Jesus Christ would support homosexuality and baby murdering? Maybe you should actually read your Bible.

          • NEO Stephens

            Dude, have you lost your little mind? What in the world does murder and homo sexual orientation have to do with this story? Stay on topic numb nuts.

          • major Bubba

            No, you claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ and be a Liberal Democrat at the same time. Democrats are the champions of abortion and the Homosexual agenda. How can you be both. If you read your Bible you will realize that there is no gray area in regard to homosexuality. It is a forbidden behavior and remember that little tidbit, “Thou shalt not kill”. I am on topic, you cannot be a democrat and support their ideologies and be a Christian the two contradict each other.

          • NEO Stephens

            Where in this thread did I say I was a liberal? You people like to claim how much you know about the bible, but you don’t really live it. And you look to one topic and you think that is the requirement for entrance into the kingdom. YOU sir, need to read your bible on the requirements of heavenly entrance. In there is says absolutely NOTHING about being liberal, conservative, democrat or republican. Actually, it even states that some who think they are going to heaven, are actually not. You should read up on the Pharisees b/c most of the republicans or “conservatives” remind me sooo much of them.

          • major Bubba

            How do I know your a liberal? Ha that is funny. It’s your attiturde and opinion that give you away. And the way you twist and turn the discussion to suit yourself and your opinion, that sir is the tell.

          • NEO Stephens

            Ha, you guys are the masters of “twisting the truth” to make it fit your needs. I make my own decisions, I don’t follow a party line like you guys do. Doesn’t matter that they are wrong 90% of the time, you just fall in line. Good for you. Keep doing that.

          • major Bubba

            Oh, so I nailed it is what you are saying. It’s hard sometimes to tell with lying democrats. There is only one kind of independent, a democrat who is ashamed to admit it, because you have no real convictions. Just what ever stirs the pot.

      • SYG

        Hey NEO . . . . .thanks for showing your high level of intelligence by engaging in insults and name calling. .
        Perhaps you’ve got the Disney Blog confused with this site.
        This one is for adults with constructive criticism . . .kinda like I’m doing with you.
        BTW . . .Are you a Democrat? Be honest now . . .confess!

        • NEO Stephens

          I’m an Independent, I think for myself. I don’t tow any party lines. I like fact, not innuendos or talking TV head points.

        • tootdadoo

          Hey SYG, you need to STOP pretty soon too because I’m really starting to “GET EMBARRASSED FOR YOU TOO”! I worry about you and your “Ass-Brother” Greg, the combined intelligent level of you two is swiftly becoming HILARIOUS! Reminds me of a Saturday Night Live Skit I saw last week! LOL!

    • tootdadoo

      …AND YOU ARE STILL HOLDING YOU HEAD UP YOUR ASS!

  • Richard William Byers

    Are you surprised Lois Lerner “pleaded the fifth?” When I look over the 5th Amendent I look at what it is designed to protect you from. “No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury.”

    So was she a participant in an infamous crime or is she merely seeking protection from “the implications of the question, in the setting in which it is asked” lead a claimant to possess a “reasonable cause to apprehend danger from a direct answer”, believing that “a responsive answer to the question or an explanation of why it cannot be answered might be dangerous because injurious disclosure could result.”

    Ideally, the amendment protects people who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances and a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing.

    Which I would understand under most circumstances other than … The Law.
    The powers of the various branches of government are very clearly delineated. There is no “ambiguity” on what they may or may not do; who they may target and who they may not. The powers of the branches of government and their actors are very clearly enumerated not only in the Constitution but in United States Code.

    So to “plead the fifth” it is doubtful you were wrapped up in any “ambiguity” and I can only surmise that you were part and parcel to some capital crime or you are trying to avoid providing the investigators with the evidence which would show your guilt, or the guilt of others; an act of production.

    As an officer within the civil service she swore the same oath as the rest of us;
    to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

    Without any reservation or purpose of evasion… to faithfully discharge her duties.. and to support and defend the Constitution… If you know of a crime; and in failing to do so you evade your responsibility. That alone is grounds for contempt.

    • Garry Singletary

      Richard, and all of these fake conspiracies that are made up, IRS,Benghazi are not ambiguous? When are Issa,Lindsey Graham,John Boehner and the rest of those idiots going to do their jobs.

      • SYG

        They’ll be on the next bus out of town right after, B H Obama, J Biden, L Lerner, E Holder and Harry Reid the Elder.

  • Jose Hernandez

    There is no way to send her to court and have the judge to sentence her at least to clean toilets with her tongue? without salary !!!

  • Gretchen la Blanc

    actually, holding her in contempt would violate the 5th amendment. I thought Allen West understood the Constitution he was supposedly upholding, but i guess not.

    • Ed Marko

      They ruled that she didn’t take the 5th as she violated it during her last testimony. They need to throw her ass in jail and cut ALL of her benefits until she comes forward and tells the truth that we already know! She did oblamoes dirty work.

      • Gretchen la Blanc

        Who ruled? unless it was the Supreme Court it means nothing. She was placed on leave in May 2013 and retired in September 2013. All research indicates Obama knew nothing about it. Speculation by FOX News hosts does not equal research.

        • Ed Marko

          Easy, before you run out of cool aid. If you believe that oblamo didn’t know then you deserve your obamacare, obamaphone, and i hope you enjoy living off of the sweat of the hard working people of this country.

          • Gretchen la Blanc

            And I’m betting that you believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction…

  • Tim Irving

    I’m not a lawyer but I’m pretty sure that she can’t be held in contempt in this instance. The fact that she took the fifth leads me to believe that she has something to hide and it will come out in the email’s. She may be the source of the illegality what ever it is or she may have been working on someone else’s behalf. Again the emails will eventually tell the story. The fact that they can’t hold her in contempt does not mean that she won’t go to jail before this is through. She has now had a couple of chances to put this behind her and move on with her life and has instead pled the fifth. Obvious conclusion is that she is attempting to protect someone or some group or she is guilty of some illegal act. The IRS internal investigation means nothing. They also investigated Bengazi long after anyone could be found to interview and surprisingly they found nothing actionable. That investigation was meaningless as well. Some of you folks don’t seem to understand that these things take years to work through. It might seem that the committee is spinning it’s wheels to us, but you can be sure that everything that can be learned from her spending habits, travel habits and social contacts as well as her email’s will be examined. There is very likely to be a civil trial in this matter before she can fade into the sunset..

  • Rich Rochester

    She needs jail time.

  • NEO Stephens

    Oh Allen West, you’re still breathing in chemicals. Just like most other tea-bag repugn*nts, you don’t seem to understand how the constitution works or what’s in it. If you can read anything other than the 2nd Amendment, you just might actually learn something.

  • NEO Stephens

    Oh Allen West, you’re still breathing in chemicals. Just like most other tea-bag repugn*nts, you don’t seem to understand how the constitution works or what’s in it. If you can read anything other than the 2nd Amendment, you just might actually learn something.

  • Johnny

    The first time Lois Lerner was summoned to appear before Congress, she plead the 5th. then she read a prepared statement. Once she read the statement she gave up her right to the 5th. amendment protection and they did nothing. UN-honorable Eric Holder was found in contempt of congress. Nothing was done to him either. If you don’t enforce the law then why would anyone respect the law.

  • mary k mckay

    Ms Lerner’s lawyer had offered a proffer that would have answer Issa’s questions. Why did Issa shut the committee down without listening to anyone else? Pleading the 5th doesn’t make you guilty. Especially since this was a witch hunt from the beginning.

  • Stay Loose

    I can’t wait to see the hammer come down on Issa and West. Don’t think they will take the Fifth? Let’s see if they are so eager to testify when they are “not guilty” of anything.

    As for Lerner, she is a stooge and I don’t think they really want her testimony. She is the one who initially “apologized” at a conservative meeting. How convenient! Ironically, conservative press reporting at the time raised a lot of questions about the timing of her claim — a lot of things didn’t jive. I personally suspect it actually will lead to the GOP’s “Frank Underwood” who set her up. If Issa knows this, he is just playing footsie with Lerner to keep the issue alive until the midterm elections and fire up the base, hence the charade last week.

  • rparshooter

    The constitution gives her the right to plead the Fifth, just like it would grant anyone else the same right. Stop pandering.

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